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Is there a Major league sports equivalent to some NBA centers being horrendous at free throws?

Now this obviously does not apply to all centers. There have been many great FT shooting centers in NBA history (Yao ming, Sikma, Jokic, ​Towns, Embiid, ) but its historically been more common that big men, even star big men, are poor free throw shooters despite free throws being such a huge part of the game. It has got me thinking whether there is an equivalent in other major pro sports where players/stars perform rather poorly in a particular aspect of the sport despite their overall talent for the sport in its entirety?

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Charania The Chicago Bulls are trading Rob Dillingham to the Charlotte Hornets for Buddy Hield and cash, sources tell ESPN.

The Chicago Bulls are trading Rob Dillingham to the Charlotte Hornets for Buddy Hield and cash, sources tell ESPN. https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/a6cd13b7c38f0

The Bulls add a veteran shooter in Hield, who landed in Charlotte via trade from Atlanta, while the Hornets create a $9.4 million trade exception and take in $3 million less in salary. Chicago gets cash to make up for a good chunk of the difference in salaries.

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AMA: Utah Jazz Media Day on Monday, 9/28 at 5:00 PM ET

Hey r/nba! Utah Jazz players including Ace Bailey, Jaren Jackson Jr., Lauri Markkanen, Darryn Peterson, and more will be answering your questions during 2026-27 NBA Media Day. Ask them anything!

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Friedell Following Curry’s extension, Butler and Draymond have expressed interest in finishing their careers with the Warriors, but doing so could require them to return on substantially smaller contracts. Curry’s decision to sign for less than the Max allow GS additional financial flexibility.

Stephen Curry’s new two-year, $116 million extension keeps the superstar with the Golden State Warriors through the 2028-29 season and gives the franchise greater flexibility to build around him during the final years of his career.

According to Nick Friedell of The Athletic, Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green have also expressed interest in finishing their careers with the Warriors. However, keeping both veterans could require them to accept significantly smaller contracts. “Butler and Green have expressed interest in retiring with the Warriors, though doing so could require them to return on substantially smaller contracts,” Friedell wrote.

Friedell also highlighted Curry’s decision to sign for less than the maximum available as a move that provides Golden State with additional financial flexibility.

The Warriors will now look to maximize that flexibility while trying to build a competitive roster around Curry. Golden State has added Butler and Kristaps Porzingis in recent seasons, but has yet to establish itself as a championship contender.



Source: https://sportando.basketball/en/jimmy-butler-draymond-green-interested-in-finishing-careers-with-warriors/

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Weekly Friday Self-Promotion and Fan Art Thread

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JJ Reddick on his starting lineup: ‘I’m pretty confident in three of the spots … the other two spots will not be two white guys.’
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ESPN NBA Player Rank 2026: Mitchell #10 Tatum #9 Cade #8 Edwards #7 Brunson #6 Giannis #5 Doncic #4 Shai #3 Wemby #2 Jokic #1

Source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/\_/id/50015167/nba-rank-2026-players-10-1-featuring-wembanyama-sga-jokic-brunson-luka-more

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Jalen Duren's full name is "Jalen Anthony Duren", which is an anagram of "no deal then Jan", alluding to the fact that if he signs the qualifying offer he won't be eligible to be traded until January 15

The CBA states that a free agent who signs with an NBA team can’t be traded for three months or until December 15, whichever is later. Moreover, if a player if signed using Bird or Early Bird rights and his new deal meets any one of the following criteria he won't be eligible to be traded until January 15:

* got a raise exceeding 20% (Jalen Duren's salary was $6.4M last season. His qualifying offer is worth $9.6M which is 50% higher than his salary last year.)
* more than the minimum (obviously bruh)
* and their team was over the cap (obviously bruh)

Obviously he still has to consent to a trade but this seems to not be an issue for him.

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Heading into the 2025-2026 season, ESPN ranked Walker Kessler as the 98th best player in the NBA. Now, he is ranked 73rd. Kessler ascended those 25 spots by playing five games, having season ending surgery, and joining the Lakers

Thought this was kind of funny, they must have really seen something from Kessler in those five games in October and early November. Kessler averaged 14-10-1.8 in those games for what it’s worth.

(Link to 73rd this season, sorry for the ridiculous link)

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Vorkunov If league investigators find proof that the Bucks and Trent are guilty of what the Clippers and Leonard were guilty of, the punishment could be equally severe, if not worse.

Article: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7621957/2026/09/23/bucks-gary-trent-jr-nba-investigation-kawhi-clippers-comparison/?unlocked_article_code=1.DVE.YJdH.f8-r6qGtLCbD&source=user_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share

If league investigators find proof that the Bucks and Trent are guilty of what the Clippers and Leonard were guilty of, the punishment could be equally severe, if not worse.

An NBA spokesman said the league’s investigation into Trent’s contract is ongoing and declined to answer further questions. The Bucks and Klutch Sports Group — Trent’s representing agency — have declined comment, but two sources with direct knowledge of the interviews taking place as part of the investigation said both the Bucks and Klutch are cooperating.

The NBA hired national investigations law firm Hecker Fink to examine the circumstances surrounding Trent’s contract. The league typically hires white-shoe firm Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz for work like this, but two concurrent cap-circumvention cases are atypical.

The details that caught the NBA’s attention regarding Trent’s deal are this: Trent, 27, had signed two prior contracts for much less money with Milwaukee amid the previous two summers of 2024 and 2025 (including for the league minimum in 2024). There were player options attached to both deals, and he declined them both, setting up larger paydays. The first was a modest increase, with his 2025-26 salary jumping from $2.6 million to $3.7 million. Then, in the run-up to his new contract, which will pay him more than $15 million annually, he muddled through his worst statistical campaign since his rookie campaign from eight years ago. Trent averaged 8.1 points on 39 percent shooting in 21 minutes per game.

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Delonte West seen in good spirits, showing off his new teeth in a recent livestream
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Tyrese Haliburton says he’s confused how people poorer than him are flying private when it’s expensive even for him, even though he’s currently on a $244 million contract with the Pacers. [Boardroom]
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Amick The Sacramento Kings have signaled a desire to pay Jalen Duren a max contract next Summer. There are two other teams, including the Milwaukee Bucks, who have interest in Duren.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7618603/2026/09/21/jalen-duren-pistons-contract-extension-nba/?unlocked_article_code=1.C1E.dp4Y.qVae-ptNhgAr&source=user_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share

Barring another change in the talks, per league sources, Duren might be missing in action when the team reconvenes in Detroit. The team holds its media day on Monday and would have two days of training camp before the Oct. 1 qualifying-offer deadline arrives. The Pistons have the ability to push the deadline back, but it remains unclear if they have any plans to do so if needed. They could also engage with teams regarding sign-and-trade scenarios, but they have been staunchly resistant to that possibility throughout the offseason.

While taking the qualifying-offer route would allow Duren to become an unrestricted free agent next summer, it comes with substantial risk. There’s the omnipresent health factor, the reality that he would spend the entire season auditioning for his next contract, and the historical fact that players typically don’t leave this amount of guaranteed money on the table.

Still, Duren’s confidence is born out of the fact that his market for next summer looks quite robust. As *The Athletic* previously reported, the Sacramento Kings have signaled a willingness to pay him a max-salary deal next summer. That alone has aided his leverage, but there are at least two other teams — including the Milwaukee Bucks — that are known to have serious interest in Duren (both now and, potentially, next summer).

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Trae Young on leaving Atlanta: "I knew it was time and for me, I wanted to leave the right way. I never wanted it to be a big deal. I grew up in OKC where I saw KD get killed for leaving a certain way, I didn't want that type of feeling. I also saw how they treated Russ when he left OKC."
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The Athletic Duren believes his All-Star/All-NBA season puts him above the Thompson twins' $155M and $208M deals

With training camp a week away, there is finally movement in the strained negotiation between restricted free-agent center Jalen Duren and the Detroit Pistons.

Yet still, with the Eastern Conference contender showing renewed interest in getting a deal done and the 22-year-old, All-NBA center pushing for a bigger payday, the gap between the sides remains. Per league sources, the Pistons upped their offer by $10 million in recent days – from the five-year, $190 million proposal that was put forth in August to a five-year, $200 million deal that has no team or player options and is fully guaranteed. Those sources, like others in this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity.

With Duren known to be displeased during the process, in addition to the prospect of him taking a one-year qualifying offer ($9.6 million) before the Oct. 1 deadline, the move marked the first sign of progress in nearly six weeks. But Duren, who is eligible to receive a five-year, $287 million deal and was known to be seeking a contract worth at least $200 million, has thus far rebuffed the offer. With the two sides having gone weeks on end without communicating during this process, the waiting game continues as the season nears.

ESPN was first to report the Pistons’ $200 million offer.

Barring another change in the talks, per league sources, Duren might be missing in action when the team reconvenes in Detroit. The team holds its media day on Monday and would have two days of training camp before the Oct. 1 qualifying-offer deadline arrives. The Pistons have the ability to push the deadline back, but it remains unclear if they have any plans to do so if needed. They could also engage with teams regarding sign-and-trade scenarios, but they have been staunchly resistant to that possibility throughout the offseason.

While taking the qualifying-offer route would allow Duren to become an unrestricted free agent next summer, it comes with substantial risk. There’s the omnipresent health factor, the reality that he would spend the entire season auditioning for his next contract, and the historical fact that players typically don’t leave this amount of guaranteed money on the table.

Still, Duren’s confidence is born out of the fact that his market for next summer looks quite robust. As The Athletic previously reported, the Sacramento Kings have signaled a willingness to pay him a max-salary deal next summer. That alone has aided his leverage, but there are at least two other teams — including the Milwaukee Bucks — that are known to have serious interest in Duren (both now and, potentially, next summer).

What’s more, the league’s recent announcement that the salary cap had increased by $2 million for the 2027-28 season changed the math in his favor as it relates to future finances. If he were to take the qualifying offer for next season and secure a four-year, max-salary deal elsewhere next summer, for example, the combined earnings in that five-year period would be nearly as much as what Detroit is currently offering ($198.8 million versus $200 million).

That revelation begs a relevant and obvious question: Does Duren still want to play with the Pistons? Rival teams have indicated for quite some time that Duren is very interested in playing elsewhere, and his absence from multiple team events in the summer is certainly a sign of his discontent.

While, on the surface, it may seem Duren’s contract negotiations with the Pistons have dominated the 2026 offseason, the disagreement dates back roughly a year. Had Duren and the Pistons come to an agreement on a rookie-scale extension last summer, the way they did with Ausar Thompson last week, this situation would cease to exist.

Duren has been away from the city for much of the offseason, with the exception of his mid-August children’s basketball camp in Shelby Township, Mich. He was absent for fellow All-NBA teammate Cade Cunningham’s minicamp in San Diego and Pistons owner Tom Gores’ annual

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Complaining about Modern Basketball from Older Stars has always been a thing in the NBA. Here is Oscar Robertson complaining about the "lack of defense" in the modern NBA year of ... 1985

[From Evansville Press • Page 29 - Wednesday, February 13, 1985](https://i.imgur.com/EyNw1zc.jpeg)

Note: The ellipses are there because I cut a lot of the article. full article can be read ^

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> **Robertson thinks some changes need to be made**
> **By Dave Johnson**
> Sports editor
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> Pound for pound and inch for inch, he may have been the best basketball player ever.
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> In high school, Robertson led Indianapolis Crispus Attucks to back-to-back state championships in 1955 and '56. The '55 team was the first Indiana team to complete a season undefeated.
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> A 6-foot-5, 215-pound guard, Robertson went on to play 14 seasons in the NBA, 10 with Cincinnati and four with Milwaukee. A 12-time all-star, he is the only player in league history to average a "triple-double" for an entire season. He did it in 1962, when he averaged 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists a game.
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> Now 46 and living in Cincinnati, where he has business interests, Robertson is not impressed with basketball today.
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> "I enjoy some games," he said, "but not all. Some games put you to sleep."
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> He is particularly critical of the pro game. Over the past 15 seasons, the NBA has expanded from 14 teams to 23 and Robertson believes that has hurt the caliber of play.
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> "Fifteen years ago, you could put any two teams on the floor and have a great game. They played each other tough. Now, when Boston plays the (Indiana) Pacers, it's no contest. If it's the Pacers or Cleveland or Kansas City, people just don't want to watch."
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> After playing in the NBA Legends old-timers game last weekend in Indianapolis, Robertson discussed a variety of subjects, including:
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> * **How the best NBA teams today would fare against the best of 10 or 20 years ago:** Specifically, he was asked to compare the Philadelphia Warriors' 1967 team, which went 68-13 and had Wilt Chamberlain as its driving force, with the '83 champion Philadelphia 76ers, led by Julius Erving and Moses Malone, who went 65-17. "The '83 team couldn't have guarded Wilt. He'd have gotten all the rebounds." Asked if Malone wouldn't be a good match for Chamberlain, Robertson said: "If (Bill) Russell couldn't stop Wilt, how could Moses?"
> * **Why there are so many dunk shots in the NBA:** "Because teams don't have Wilt, Russell and (Nate) Thurmond playing center."
> * **The lack of defense:** "Teams used to pressure you. Now they stand there with their hands down. I can't understand how a player can go from baseline to baseline and make a layup without somebody stopping him along the way. "... Most (NBA) players don't move without the ball. How many can you name? Dr. J (Erving), (Larry) Bird... Most players just stand there and hope they get the ball so they can shoot over someone."

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Its just funny that this current issue of older players acting like they played in the demon era and the new era couldn't hang, is not a new phenominon at all

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Karl-Anthony Towns, Mikal Bridges, OG Anunoby and Josh Hart join Jalen Brunson to kick off season 52 of Saturday Night Live
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Himmelsbach Celtics coach Joe Mazzulla told the Globe on Saturday that he has cut ties with Life Surge, the Christian organization that has come under scrutiny for alleged predatory financial practices at its faith-based conferences.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/09/26/sports/celtics-joe-mazzulla-life-surge/

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Mazzulla spoke at a Life Surge event in Portland, Maine, last September and was scheduled for another Oct. 17 in Hartford. He said he informed the organization that he will no longer attend, and he requested that his image be removed from the organization’s website, too.

“I’m always looking for partnerships to be able to share my faith,” Mazzulla said by phone. “It was a platform I thought made some sense for us, and when this comes out, you take your stand and move forward.”

Investigative reporter Pablo Torre, on an episode of his “Pablo Torre Finds Out” podcast released Thursday, reported on football star Tim Tebow’s deep connections to Life Surge, which holds financial literacy events across the country featuring celebrity speakers and entertainers. It allegedly preys on attendees by pressuring them to pay as much as $50,000 for financial mentorship and coaching.

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Mazzulla, whose strong Christian faith is well known, said Life Surge initially contacted his representatives at Creative Artists Agency about him joining its roster of speakers.

He was scheduled to help headline its Hartford gathering at PeoplesBank Arena, which is described on the organization’s website as “a one-day life-changing event where thousands of local Christians gather to learn why and how to create and multiply financial resources for Kingdom impact.”

Said Mazzulla: “Once these allegations came out, I just completely backed out of it. I’m not showing up there and obviously don’t support any of the allegations or things that they’re accused of, and I’m moving forward.”

Mazzulla said he is focused on the attendees who may have been coerced by Life Surge and hopes they will have the resources and guidance needed to regroup. He also will not let this incident affect his mission to do good through his religion.

“It’s an unfortunate situation, but my purpose is to use my platform for a positive impact on faith,” Mazzulla said. “The risk you take is situations like this happen. The most important thing is to No. 1, focus on the people who were wronged and No. 2, do the best job you can authentically and morally and ethically to share your faith without negatively impacting people.”

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BREAKING: Golden State’s Stephen Curry has agreed on a two-year, $116 million contract extension with the franchise, with a player option in 2028-29, sources tell ESPN.

BREAKING: Golden State’s Stephen Curry has agreed on a two-year, $116 million contract extension with the franchise, with a player option in 2028-29, sources tell ESPN.

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Scottie Barnes casually eating lunch in the background of a live local news segment after Bobby Webster's press conference
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New York State sues Polymarket from running an illegal gambling operation

Ignore the “from running” grammatical error, r/NBA won’t let me fix it 😔

Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/24/new-york-sues-polymarket-us-two-months-after-filing-suit-against-kalshi-.html

I hope New York wins. Polymarket and every other gambling site (oh sorry. “prediction market”) is an absolute cancer on the NBA

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Gregg Popovich just remarried to the ex-wife of his former assistant Mike Budenholzer.

Per TMZ. I am happy for Pop that he found happiness after the death of his first wife, but i definitely didn’t expect to read this headline today.

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[Charania] The Knicks and Karl-Anthony Towns unlikely to reach contract extension. Towns is eligible for a 4-year, $276M max extension. He has a $61M player option for the 2027-28 season and could become a free agent: “This is a cloud going into training camp.”
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Steph Curry on his rare eye conditon during the Warriors dynasty run: "I joke that when I’m all done, my memoir should be called The Whole Time I Couldn’t See"

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> “It was 2018, and I didn’t know I was really dealing with crazy blurred vision or distorted images — it was just the way that I saw things, and we compensated around it,” Curry, 38, tells PEOPLE.

> But one day, Warriors general manager Bob Myers was watching his star player on a road game broadcast when he noticed something odd.

> “He texted me after the game because apparently the telecast kept showing me when I was on the bench, and he was like, ‘You’re just squinting, looking like you couldn’t see anything. Have you gotten your eyes checked? You should probably go do that because that wasn’t normal,’” Curry recalls.

> Curry says he “thought it was going to be nothing” when he met with an optometrist shortly after Myers’ request. “They told me that I had a rare condition called Keratoconus, the irregular-shaped cornea that obviously leads to blurriness, distorted images. What I found out about it was it’s a progressive condition that can deteriorate your vision over time and it’s irreversible if it goes in the wrong direction.”

> As it turns out, the NBA superstar couldn’t see clearly while he was winning those titles. “I joke that when I’m all done, my memoir should be called The Whole Time I Couldn’t See,” Curry says with a laugh.

> “You’re having to process more than you probably need to without that clarity of focus,” he adds.

> Eight years later, Curry — who gets his eyes checked every six months — says he’s a “trained professional” at putting in his contacts, and thanks to Glaukos, he’s been able to get on a treatment plan that’s “curbed all the anxiety around where this could head.”

> Adjusting to playing with contacts was a process, says Curry. “That first year or two, and that was me being stubborn at that time because it was a part of my job to be able to see the rim, see the court, even if it was blurry. I was like, ‘I’m used to this,’” he says. “But to that point about wearing the contacts, finding the right fit and the right prescription, ones that stayed stable while I was playing.”

> The Warriors star says he “can only imagine” what his eyesight would be like if Myers hadn’t suggested he get them checked. “It’s more that transformation has helped a lot, just give me peace of mind, clarity and help performance in a way that it’s not going to tell me I can shoot better, but it just gives me a little bit more energy knowing I can see.”

> Now, he wants to “encourage people to go get checked” and “have those conversations with the eye doctors” if they’re experiencing any symptoms of the condition. “I think that process is important to share,” says Curry.

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Kevin Durant on the drama surrounding the WNBA:"All that stuff is to be noise man. WNBA is flourishing. Look what these women are doing. Look at the money they made over the last few years. Look at the visibility of their league. They got 4, 5 signature athletes on major brands that are representi"
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Steven Adams - “You guys should anticipate November. The performance of the league, league-wide. GTA is dropping."
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Lebron shows off his jumper in open runs
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The qualifying offer for Duren is ~$10m. The first season of Detroit's latest offer would be ~$40m. If he took that $30m difference and invested it, he would earn more over the next 5 years than he would by taking the QO this year and getting the max from another team next year.

He can defer his taxes. But even if he doesn't and let's say he only has a $15 million difference to invest after paying his income taxes, that $15 million compounded over 5 years with an average annual rate of return of approximately 8% would yield an additional $7m.

That's only looking at the $30m difference for the first year alone, and that's only looking at the compounding interest of the amount he'd be left with after taxes, and using a fairly conservative 8% rate ​of growth.

Looking at it a different way, if he took the full $40 million from the first year of the deal that Detroit is offering him and invested the $20 million he was left with after tax for 5 years with an 8% annual return, the $20 million post-tax income from that first year alone would become $29 million in five years.

Meanwhile, if he took the full 10 million from his qualifying offer and invested the $5 million he was left with after tax for 5 years with the same 8% annual return, that $5 million post-tax income would become $7 million.

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summer team event in Southern California.

Detroit inking Thompson to a five-year, $155 million deal, which will begin paying him an average annual value of $31 million, added a layer to Duren’s contract negotiations. As did Thompson’s twin brother Amen, who agreed to sign a five-year, $208 million contract to stay with the Houston Rockets earlier this month.

While Amen Thompson was a Defensive Player of the Year finalist, neither Thompson twin earned an All-Star or All-NBA selection last season, while Duren got the nod on both. For Duren, it’s quite clear he sees his value in a higher tier than both twins considering last regular-season’s accolades. Yet, as the Pistons could certainly contest, Duren’s well-chronicled postseason struggles changed the way he was perceived around the league just as the negotiations were about to begin.

On the Pistons’ end, it’s understandable they don’t want to financially overcommit to a player they aren’t convinced will recreate his regular-season effectiveness in the playoffs. That’s especially so when Cunningham, who was given a five-year, $269 million extension two summers ago, is set to make $50.1 million next season and $53.8 million in 2027-28.

There’s a steep price to be paid no matter which direction it goes. And less time than ever for Duren and the Pistons to get a deal done.

Source:https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7618603/2026/09/21/jalen-duren-pistons-contract-extension-nba/ unlocked_article_code=1.C1E.8e1p.y0ozxPXTSug8&source=user_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share



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