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Discussion of Holochain and Holo's technology and ecosystem. https://holo.host https://holochain.org Official Announcement Channels: t.me/holochain, t.me/holohosting For in-depth conversations: chat.holochain.org

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Good evening everyone, sincere friendship

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Has there been any update on the extended test?

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HoloDex - https://youtube.com/watch?v=akgCql3jSS0

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there is a channel called holotroopers where people discuss HOT price..not allowed here

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@NATHANLENAE kan ik jou dmen?

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Is there going to be soon another launch brief?

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Oh well I missed the scammers. Bummer. I’ll smash the hammer anyway. Just to feel better.

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Night of the scammers!? 😀

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I think there are just a few that really really understand how massive this is

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https://x.com/Holochain/status/1845374991237357997?s=19

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Gm Folks!☕ Interesting thread, reading the different perspectives and ideas around decentralized vs distributed. I do like @holyshibby point, about "agent-centricity" being a big part in the conversation

I will be checking out the theweave group @dioalma

To get more info about the Counter strike tournament I'll add you to a group, DM me your x.com account if you are active there.

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Distributed systems are widely adopted and used in most modern software applications. Social media apps, video streaming services, e-commerce sites, and more are all based on distributed systems. Centralized systems naturally evolve into distributed systems to handle scalability. But ownership (let's say that to make it clear) is central.
But if I say: Holochain is decentralized, it is implicitly understood that it is also distributed. A decentralized thing (so that does not have a central "property") is obviously also distributed

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I would say that agent-centricity is the more interesting thing to focus on when discussing what makes hc different. Cpt Velveteen alluded to it in their first reply when they mentioned consensus.

That image above doesn't really add much value in my opinion. Decentralised and distributed aren't in opposition and both qualities can be present at the same time. As far as I'm concerned, centralisation is concerned with control/ownership/responsibility, whereas distribution is more concerned with locality.

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What i see in this picture is hierarchy vs heterarchy

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Yeah and then there's the still centralized relays and what not that Blockchain depends on like this picture shows.

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Hallo teams , you can answer this question or not??

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Holochain apps don’t need a distributed exchange. There’s no coin or token for apps to run. Can you be more specific about your question?

As far as linking to blockchain networks; the hApp maker builds that into their code. The IOEN network does that. Proof of energy is stored on Holochain, the app then mints a token on a blockchain (sorry don’t remember which one) and links the two so the data stays connected.

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I have a question: so if apps are build on Holochain does it need it own dex build on it and how does interoperability works with ethereum for example?

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Since you ask here, Sure!

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No announcements yet. No inside information for the mods.

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Don't worry! Sad to say but I'm sure some of them will pop up again and you will get more than one more chance to smash them :)

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@admin !report

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Blize has been banned! Reason: CAS ban.

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https://x.com/Holochain/status/1845374995398078746?s=19

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Please go @holotroopers for this 🙏

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Relay is not publicly available atm

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Is there a link for the latest relay app to be used on android phones that Mary has mentioned? I can start spreading it around if so. Thankyou

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any news regarding the extended test?

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No need to explain Holochain :) but thnx. In my opinion its not the same tho 😆 i was mostly wondering why you (and others) use the term decentralized instead of distributed. Maybe some other folks in here can answer this aswell in their way. @NATHANLENAE does Holochain see an important key difference here? Of do you also think its the same cookie?

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Better in efficiency. What is better for the planet also. I could even say that it's still legit to run a global consensus just to claim that this value is this value and forever will be this value, but first of all, you can have the same with Holochain (no one knows if one of the happs/chains will be even bigger than the BTC user base for example or Google or whatever) and second its just more limited. You can achieve the same with holochain and much more and it's much easier to pack.

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